50books_poc is now on Dreamwidth, too!
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50books_poc(As you can prolly tell from this post, hah!)
We've noticed that there are a lot of people around Dreamwidth who used to be members of the LJ comm![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
50books_poc, but who nowadays pretty much don't use LiveJournal for anything ever. This comm is for you. It's also for those of you who simply prefer to do your chromatic book blogging here, rather than there.
(And a fast introduction for those of you who don't know what 50books_poc is: it's a challenge to read books by chromatic authors. The original challenge was to read fifty books (however you want to define a book) within one calendar year of your choice, but we're just as happy to have you write your own challenge, or even participate in a no-challenge way. Basically, we just want a space where people are reading books by authors of color, and then talking about them, and we want more people to be reading more books by chromatic authors. If a challenge is going to make you less likely to do that, then don't do a challenge, just read and talk about books. If a challenge is going to make you more likely to do that, then do a challenge.)
oyceter, carene, and I are looking for input on how to manage the two sites with respect to each other. Should the two sites be mirrors of each other? Should they be independent/parallel under one management? A hybrid of the two? Something else? Please talk among yourselves about what you'd like to see (either here or on Livejournal), and we'll use that to put together some concrete proposals.
(Also, signal boosting! If you know where and how we should be doing that, please let us know! Or just go out and boost the signal yourselves, that's good, too!)
In the meanwhile, please do consider this comm open for business. The FAQ and posting rules from the LJ comm applies (and we'll set up a mirror of the FAQ over here once we make a decision about the technical issues around crossposting and importer and whatnot).
If you've got any questions for us, please drop them in the comments!
We've noticed that there are a lot of people around Dreamwidth who used to be members of the LJ comm
50books_poc, but who nowadays pretty much don't use LiveJournal for anything ever. This comm is for you. It's also for those of you who simply prefer to do your chromatic book blogging here, rather than there.(And a fast introduction for those of you who don't know what 50books_poc is: it's a challenge to read books by chromatic authors. The original challenge was to read fifty books (however you want to define a book) within one calendar year of your choice, but we're just as happy to have you write your own challenge, or even participate in a no-challenge way. Basically, we just want a space where people are reading books by authors of color, and then talking about them, and we want more people to be reading more books by chromatic authors. If a challenge is going to make you less likely to do that, then don't do a challenge, just read and talk about books. If a challenge is going to make you more likely to do that, then do a challenge.)
oyceter, carene, and I are looking for input on how to manage the two sites with respect to each other. Should the two sites be mirrors of each other? Should they be independent/parallel under one management? A hybrid of the two? Something else? Please talk among yourselves about what you'd like to see (either here or on Livejournal), and we'll use that to put together some concrete proposals.(Also, signal boosting! If you know where and how we should be doing that, please let us know! Or just go out and boost the signal yourselves, that's good, too!)
In the meanwhile, please do consider this comm open for business. The FAQ and posting rules from the LJ comm applies (and we'll set up a mirror of the FAQ over here once we make a decision about the technical issues around crossposting and importer and whatnot).
If you've got any questions for us, please drop them in the comments!
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Date: 2012-01-01 01:59 am (UTC):D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Date: 2012-01-01 03:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-01 05:31 am (UTC)(This is great :))
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Date: 2012-01-01 11:32 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-01-01 09:47 am (UTC)Second choice would be for people to choose one or the other, rather than posting to both LJ and DW, since if people are still posting to LJ, that means I need to keep the comm there on my flist, but of course I also want to read the DW version. But I don't want to see dupes...
You should probably post on the LJ comm about this one's existence?
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Date: 2012-01-01 03:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-01 10:15 am (UTC)I hope the import of the LJ comm along with comments is scheduled?
My suggestion would be, that since posts from the LJ comm can be imported over to the DW comm, the DW comm be made the primary one. People who want to continue posting to LJ can do so, and periodically, perhaps every two weeks or month, depending on posting volume, the mods can import those posts to DW for archival purposes. Future delicious tagging etc can then point to DW for consolidation.
Since most posts to the comm are public, people on DW can subscribe to the LJ 50books_poc RSS feed, and someone could set up a DW-comm RSS feed over on LJ for the folks there to follow. If people don't crosspost, then that should prevent duplication of entries on anyone's reading list/friends page.
Mod posts should, obviously, be cross-posted.
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Date: 2012-01-01 03:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-01 06:32 pm (UTC)My thinking is that posts that are backdated on DW will not show up on the RSS feed, since that limits itself to the latest 5 or whatever anyway, but that's a Support question.
One work-around could be to import all the LJ posts as locked to the comm. Locked posts don't show up on RSS feeds.
(What would be grand would be an organic evolution of the comm to just move entirely over here.)
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Date: 2012-01-01 07:21 pm (UTC)According to the FAQ, RSS looks only at the last fourteen days, and yes, the importer preserves dates. But would the RSS look at a four-days-old but newly imported post and pick it up? Or leave it? Is there a way to limit importation to only posts that more than fourteen days old? I've asked Support.
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Date: 2012-01-03 04:27 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-05 08:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-05 10:29 am (UTC)Mods: Can you throw up a link to the LJ RSS feed on the comm's sidebar, and maybe make a mod level post so other people know about it?
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Date: 2012-01-06 07:14 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-01-01 04:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-01 11:33 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-03 04:25 am (UTC)I like the idea of importing the LJ comm here -- that way, we can more easily check to see if other people have posted about a book we're posting about.
Maybe wait for a few months and see how much traffic the DW and LJ versions are getting before deciding whether to make them mirror each other, or shut down the LJ version, or what?
Mostly, with having both the DW and LJ communities open, I would worry about the burden on the moderators -- I don't want y'all to have to do twice the work.
I think that with the new community importing function there will probably be other communities that are dealing with these questions, so maybe there will be some good ideas for how to handle these things in the next few weeks.
Also, more people should signal-boost that the community is now open over here, because I'm positive there are a lot of people who either remember 50books_poc from livejournal, or would be interested, and just don't know about it here yet...
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Date: 2012-01-06 07:20 pm (UTC)It looks like the importer brought the tags across, yay. Delicious (or its replacement) won't be updated to point at the imported posts, however, without a hella lotta work.
:: I don't want y'all to have to do twice the work. ::
So far, it looks like cross-posting mod posts will be a pita. Prolly the same with keeping account settings and such in sync. Beyond that I'm not anticipating a lot of extra workload with two platforms. (The universe might choose to demonstrate my naivete, however.)
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Date: 2012-01-04 03:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-06 06:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-06 06:10 pm (UTC)You can signal boost this community on DW via
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Date: 2012-01-06 06:57 pm (UTC)We've been poking around behind the dash. Despite our loose talk above, I'm not sure that it's even possible to have the two communities mirror each other in real time. We can regularly import the LJ community into the DW one, so that the DW one is an archive, but we can't do that in real-time. And the automatic-crosspost-to-LJ that so many people use on their private journals, doesn't seem to be available for communities. Basically, we can have the DW side contain all content (but not in real-time); we can't get the LJ side to contain all content.
So it looks like the best we can offer is to go the other extreme: no duplication between comms, with RSS feeds of the comms available on the other platform. So people on LJ can do LJ comm + feed of DW comm, while DW people can do DW comm + feed of LJ comm, and both sets of people end up getting all content, even if it's not all natively on their preferred platform.
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Date: 2012-01-07 12:26 am (UTC)