Delicious alternatives

[oyceter]

Hi all,

We've seen the news that Yahoo is pulling the plug on Delicious, and we're currently investigating alternatives. The two mentioned most frequently are Pinboard and Diigo. If anyone has experience with Delicious alternatives, let us know!

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[also-warriors.livejournal.com]

Oh no! I just started using Delicious a few months ago and have made it my alternative to bookmarking. Thanks for the heads up.

[zeborah]

I've used Diigo a lot. It doesn't have a direct analogue to tag bundles, but otherwise I really like it.

[sanguinity]

We've currently got ~1500 tags, and we haven't done any serious work yet organizing by genre, nationality, or ethnicity. Does Diigo have something that would save users from manually scrolling through a list of several thousand tags?

[holyschist.livejournal.com]

I have only just started using Diigo, so someone else may know of something better, but the only thing I can see is "lists"--which requires manually adding each bookmark to each list individually. There does not seem to be a way to add a bookmark to multiple lists simultaneously.

I am really surprised that none of the major alternatives I've seen so far have anything like tag bundling. :/

[sanguinity]

Manually adding each bookmark, not each tag? ...gah.

Yeah, I've been surprised by that, too. I haven't yet waded through the big list of social bookmarking sites (and won't be able to until after Christmas), but I've got to believe there's something in there that lets you handle thousands of tags?

[holyschist.livejournal.com]

It appears so, unless I'm missing something.

Google Bookmarks has a much more efficient way to add things to lists, but it's still...not ideal.

So far most of the other sites I see recommended are very focused on visual thumbnails and caching...not the most useful features for indexing book reviews (I'm sort of baffled as to what visual thumbnails ARE good for--I can't tell from a thumbnail of a costuming website whether it covers 16th century Italian or 14th century Japanese, personally. That's what text notes and tags are for!).

I'm frankly surprised Yahoo isn't trying to raise capital to save or sell Delicious, as Xmarks did--especially given the foothold Delicious got in the education world. There are a lot of unhappy libraries out there.

[sanguinity]

I'm surprised by that, too. I've seen an appeal to yahoo to open source it, but at the moment, I have to work with the assumption that it will cease to exist sometime in the indeterminate future.

...and it might be that a bookmarking site isn't the best choice for indexing book reviews. But going away from finding a new bookmarking site means throwing away a decent chunk of the work that's been done. And I really don't want to do that.

[holyschist.livejournal.com]

Yeah, we are having the same problem with queerlit50, but not on anywhere NEAR your scale. But I'm not sure what would work better for indexing book reviews than a bookmarking site, either....

[sanguinity]

A site about books, like LibraryThing. Most tags are associated with books, anyway, and you could have "reviews" be links to the books on the comm. What you'd lose is having an efficient way to cross-index by community member.

[holyschist.livejournal.com]

Hmmm. That seems bit more difficult for browsing by topic, too, and there would also be lots of non-50books_poc reviews. I don't think there'd be a way to filter?

I dunno, but I'm not thrilled with any of the review sites out there, either.

[sanguinity]

Hrm, you're right, you can't have multiple reviews for your own listing of a book. (You can have multiple links in you own review, but by then you really are pushing the format.)

[vass]

Pinboard isn't suitable for a community, as far as I know - it's for one person, and is deliberately non-social.

[sanguinity]

I see what you mean about deliberately nonsocial.

Currently, the social aspects of the delicious account don't get used that much, unless people are getting to the 50books_poc account via their delicious network (which is something that I'd never see). We get very few "for:50books_poc" links, for example. And if there are other social features that we should have been using, I don't know what they are.

Not having compact and list views might be the dealbreaker for pinboard. And, of course, there are no bundles, and at ~1500 tags (currently, and expected to grow hugely in this next year), we need something with some real tag-wrangling / tag-organizing / tag-browsing tools.

[sanguinity]

Hrm. As of 1.5 yrs ago, bundles were on the pinboard dev-list. But in a long-term, haven't-even-started-researching way.

[zeborah]

It now sounds like Yahoo might sell Delicious to someone who can keep it running.

[sanguinity]

Oh, yay!

We'll still have everything backed up and such (all our delicious data is sitting in a file on my desktop right now), but if we don't HAVE to move, I'd very much rather not move.