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There was some debate here before about whether Angelica Gorodischer counts for the purposes of this challenge. I did some Googling. She was born in Buenos Aires, and is the daughter of Spanish and French immigrants. She married a Jewish man, which I'm guessing is where the surname came from. (reference) It's possible to be Spanish and POC, but I can't tell from the photos on Google Images if she is. Thoughts?

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Jul. 22nd, 2009 08:18 pm
[identity profile] chipmunk-planet.livejournal.com
I just finished Creoles of Color in the Bayou Country, and I was wondering if anyone is familiar with the authors. Are they POC??

Carl A. Brasseaux identifies as Cajun (so obviously he doesn't count here), but I can't find anything about Claude F. Oubre and Keith P. Fontenot. Can't really tell by their names ...

Thanks for any assistance.

(btw, if anyone is interested in Creole literature there is a ton listed on the French Creoles site.
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For anyone looking for inspiration, [livejournal.com profile] delux_vivens reminded me about a meme that went round last year.

In response to the Big Read meme, a list of great books by people of colour was compiled, featuring 262 books in its expanded version:

denim_queen: 180 expanded

And as people mention in the comments, that's just a fraction of what's out there.
[identity profile] eccentricweft.livejournal.com
I was wondering if Jewish writers are considered authors of color in this comm? I've seen the phrase "people of color" used broadly to refer to everyone who isn't a white Protestant, and other situations where the intent is to refer more precisely to people of non-European ethnic & racial heritage rather than religious heritage.

I'm comfortable with either interpretation. I was just thinking last night about a book I could post about.
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Can someone help me out of this hole I'm digging for myself, please? Does Joe Sacco (Palestine) qualify for this comm?

Sacco is Maltese. Malta is a Mediterranean island with a mixed European and Arabic history (f'rinstance, Maltese is an Arabic-family language written in Romanic script); I'm seeing a lot of debate as to whether the Arabic or European influence is stronger, and some assertions that at least some of the debate is British propaganda from when Malta was a British colony. From my roaming around chatrooms trying to figure this out, at least some ethnic Maltese self-identify as people of color.

...but I can't tell if Sacco himself does. The first photo I saw of him, I thought "person of color," but most of the press about him seems to assume he's white (the "his race/background isn't worth mentioning" treatment that white people get). But then, this comm has been generally considering people of the Middle East to be people of color even though many in the mainstream consider them white, so I'm not sure that Sacco's treatment by the press is exactly relevant here.

So... um?

(And if the mods want, I'll delete this post after.)

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Jun. 14th, 2008 10:44 pm
[identity profile] chipmunk-planet.livejournal.com
Bliss Broyard's One Drop. Does that count? I just finished it and I can't figure out whether she self-identifies as a POC or not.
[identity profile] anatomiste.livejournal.com
Hi again, everyone! I haven't posted in here since, um, November, and since then I've switched journals (long story) from [livejournal.com profile] into_desire back to my old one, [livejournal.com profile] anatomiste. I didn't stop reading books by people of color, though, so I've got a backlog of posts to make here!

Before I start, here's a question, born from my position as a white American woman who's trying to learn about race and racism but who's still (of course) struggling with assumptions, prejudices, and misconceptions, many of which I'm doubtlessly still unaware:

I'm taking a course where we analyze the 'dialogue between history and literature' in terms of the Algerian War of Independence. Right now we're reading Fanon and Memmi (I'm looking forward to posting about Fanon!), but we've just finished the first half of the course, in which we read four books by the incomparable Assia Djebar.

For those of you who are, tragically, not familiar with this brilliant writer, filmmaker, and historian, Djebar has been writing novels since the war in the 1960s in which Algeria won its freedom from France which had colonized it starting in 1830. Her perspective therefore spans from colonial to postcolonial; in her novels, short stories, and films she responds critically to both the brutal French occupation and to the repressive policies of the postcolonial government which has legislated Arabic as the official language and enforced the separation and seclusion of women despite the important roles they too played in the revolution.

Djebar's writing is often autobiographical, interspersed with passages of distant history, the voices of Algerian women whom Djebar has interviewed in her role as historian, and prose poetry that's powerful even in translation. She writes in French (leading to some interesting reflections on her choice to use this language rather than Arabic) and constantly meditates on the roles of languages, writing, song, and silence.

I would love to share her books with this community, but here's what confuses me: She almost never engages with race (to the extent that it never came up in our class discussions until we got to Fanon) and I think it would be possible to argue that she doesn't in fact identify herself as a POC.

Now, I've been aware (for an embarrassingly short number of years) that Africa is not a racially homogeneous continent. The black population in Algeria is very small; most people there are Arabs or Berbers, although this is primarily a linguistic distinction as most Algerians are actually descended from Berbers. Djebar comes from a Berber family.

Algeria is also sometimes considered part of the Middle East (I know! Even though it extends farther west than France!) and always part of the 'Arab world.' Now, I know several women of Middle Eastern Arab descent who definitely consider themselves POC. But none of them are from North Africa, so I don't know how relevant that is.

Here are the only two instances of racial typing (for lack of a better phrase) I can remember from Djebar's books: (1) In Children of the New World, Lila, a character whom in class discussions we decided was to some degree an avatar for Djebar, fools a landlord into thinking she is European rather than a "fatma" because of her light coloring. (2) In So Vast the Prison, Djebar mentions the long-ago journey of a Berber princess, Tin Hinan, who traveled with an entourage of women, both black and white.

There might be some other references to race, but they are totally drowned out in Djebar's work by her intense focus on gender and colonialism. In other words, she's very deeply concerned with male/female and colonizer/colonized relations, but not so much with white/POC (or with class, in fact).

However, I can't think about this for too long without feeling like I am trying to stuff Djebar into an imaginary box. After all, race is a social construct. (This has really come home for me in my recent research into the legal and social history of Mexican Americans in the United States!)

So what does this mean in terms of [livejournal.com profile] 50books_poc? I don't want to say that because Djebar writes about her subjugation in colonial and gendered but not racial terms, she's not racially discriminated against and therefore she counts as white--that's problematic in at least two ways: (1) it assumes that POC have to past some litmus test of racism, and (2) it comes pretty close to saying that POC have to write about race, which a quick look at this community will show to be a very silly statement.

It's pretty clear, from reading elsewhere, that the French colonizers regarded the Algerians as a different race (and a lot of racism against Algerians continues today in France). It's also true, more generally, that the privileged oppressors have usually been the ones to construct and apply racial categories in the first place. Some of them haven't stuck (it's really odd now for me to think that Eastern Europeans used to be regarded as POC), and lots of them, obviously, have been turned into a source of positive identity and solidarity by the oppressed groups.

So French colonizers, in the 1960s, would probably have identified Djebar as a POC, even if she could "pass" as European. But in her writing, either she chooses not to engage significantly with race, or it doesn't occur to her to do so, and so she neither turns this identity-imposed-by-the-other into a source of strength (apart from her mainly linguistic, thus ethnic, pride in her Berber heritage) nor rejects it.

What are your thoughts? (And, if I'm being really stupid about anything, which I probably am, please point it out so I don't go around spreading it...)

Can I still write about her in this community?
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ETA (March 22, 2011): I've decided to no longer "count" this author as a person of colour, sparked by the discussion in this post - http://community.livejournal.com/50books_poc/213467.html.

5.
Eva Luna by Isabel Allende

I've found with this challenge that I'm getting around to reading books I've been meaning to read. As with the authors from my first batch, Isabel Allende's reputation preceded her plus this book got a personal recommendation from a friend of mine as opposed to a mention from an article as usually happens with books I read.

This book was such a page-turner. The title/main character is incredibly likeable despite her flaws and sometimes questionable life choices. She's a storyteller and narrates most of the book, which is meant to be a novel but sometimes reads like a series of connected short stories what with all the backstories for certain characters. That isn't to say the main story suffers because all these other stories really add to the main one and enhance it. And I certainly got a feel for the author's version of South America. Not sure how authentic it is but it was incredibly vivid and a bit fantastical, which I guess is how magic realism should be.

The book was eye-opening too in that it gave me a better understanding of Latin/South American society/history/culture. And its exploration of the role of women in that context was also an experience. This was a thought-provoking book but also an entertaining read. I would definitely recommend this book and I would really like to read more of the author's work.
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Welcome, welcome.

I have given myself a personal challenge to read fifty books by writers of color by next year's International Blog Against Racism Week (for more info on IBARW, go to the wonderful [livejournal.com profile] ibarw).

I've set up this comm is for anyone who'd like to join me.

There are few rules, and no formal templates to follow for posting. Just read, and post, and repeat 50 times. 8-)

Help? I could use some icons… The default for the comm is from the cover of This Bridge We Call Home: Radical Visions for Transformation, the feminist anthology edited by Gloria Anzaldua and Analouise Keating, a followup to the groundbreaking This Bridge Called My Back, edited by Anzaldua and Cherrie Moraga in 1986. I've read the first one and will be re-reading it alongside second. Watch this space. 8-)

Questions? Suggestions?

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